Profiles in Client Engagement
Profiles in Client Engagement
Winter 2013
Sudden Decision Makers:
Empowering Women in Transition
The loss of a spouse or end of a marriage is a uniquely
stressful situation that pulls both husbands and wives into
a swirl of emotional challenges, but wives may often face a
sudden additional challenge: being the sole financial decision
maker for the first time.
Many women in these situations may ask, “Who can I
turn to for guidance?” And just as suddenly, your role and
responsibility as a financial advisor will have grown. “Under
such circumstances, women may place a high premium
on three advisor qualities: listening, perseverance, and
compassion,” says Russ Thornton, Vice President and
Wealthcare Advisor, Wealthcare Capital Management®, Inc.
A thorough understanding of such major transitional
moments may help you achieve a plan for your clients
with the least amount of anxiety. According to a Spectrem
Group report, women in transition are more likely to rely
on an advisor than men are, and with this market relatively
untapped, advisors may experience increased profit
and customer gain if they know how to engage women
appropriately.1
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Spectrem Group, Women In Transition: Widows and Divorcees, 2015.
Inside
Beginning the process
Focusing on what you can control
Being a client advocate
Actions to consider
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“ nder such circumstances, women
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may place a high premium on three
advisor qualities: listening, perseverance,
and compassion.”
— uss Thornton, Vice President and
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Wealthcare Advisor, Wealthcare Capital
Management®, Inc.
. Loss and divorce are, regrettably,
common. It is important for advisors to
identify women as financially literate
and help empower them as decision
makers when it comes to their assets.2
A thoughtful, compassionate financial
advisor may be in high demand in
these situations.
We met with more than 20 financial
advisors, and uncovered some
strategies to help women address
financial issues associated with
divorce or the loss of a spouse.3 In this
report, we explore those strategies as
evidenced in the approaches of three
of your peers, revealing new ways that
may help to better serve your clients,
retain them as they undergo a pivotal
life transition, and ultimately help grow
your business.
Firms in focus:
The Wellborn Group, SunTrust
Investment Services, Inc.
Wealthcare Capital
Management ®, Inc.
VennWell LLC
Home
Atlanta, Ga.
Richmond, Va.
Lake Forest, Ill.
Leadership
Debbie Riney Smith, Private
Wealth Advisor, Senior Vice
President
Russ Thornton
Colleen Chandler,
Managing Director
Assets under Management
(June 30, 2015)
$550 million
$1.2 billion
$240 million
Typical Clients
High-net-worth families; average
client size of $1 million
Affluent and high-net-worth baby
boomers; average client size
$500,000
High-net-worth families; average
client size of $2 million
Beginning the process
“ ivorce or the loss of a spouse
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changes everything. Income,
obligations, taxes. Even family
and friends.”
— ebbie Riney Smith, Private
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Wealth Advisor and Senior
Vice President, The Wellborn
Group, SunTrust Investment
Services, Inc.
Eight years ago, Debbie Riney Smith
joined a financial advisory practice that
served mainly male business executives
and lawyers in the Buckhead area of
Atlanta.
Few of their wives shared in
the financial advisory relationship.
“Changes like divorce or loss are simply
part of life,” Riney Smith says. “As I
began working with these women
directly, often under very trying
circumstances, I discovered that they
wanted not just someone they could
trust, but someone they could talk to.”
Her prior 15 years of experience
working in the financial services
industry helped the practice better
understand the unique needs of
women in transition, and, over time,
develop a comprehensive service
offering.
“Our practice went from a world
in which husbands controlled
everything — from paying the bills to
overseeing investment decisions — to a
world of empowered women working
with us and leveraging our expertise,”
explains Riney Smith.
What’s her approach? For starters,
many of the women Riney Smith works
with need a lot of education and help
in building their financial confidence,
and third-party research supports
this. Women in transition are more
willing to take the necessary steps to
gain the education needed, but they
need someone to talk their language
in order for them to fully understand.
One woman in transition said, “I’d
like advisors to start slowly educating
me so that I can make more informed
decisions.
Teach me — I want to learn
more.”1
“It’s not uncommon for these women,
many of whom are in their 50s or
older, to discover for the first time
that they have to pay the bills, put
together a budget, and manage their
investments,” says Riney Smith. “In
addition to financial matters, they’re
often looking for ways to rebuild their
social circles.”
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enter for Talent Innovation, “Harnessing the Power of the Purse: Female Investors and Global Opportunities for Growth,” May 1, 2014.
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esearch conducted during the period of July 16, 2012, to September 28, 2012, by Excella, Inc., an independent third-party marketing firm,
on behalf of Fidelity Investments with 20 participating firms.
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empowerment
To help these women begin the
process of empowering their
lives, Riney Smith takes the
following approach:
• Locate and value all assets. “We
had a widow in her late 50s who
didn’t even know where her
money was,” recalls Riney Smith.
“We went through boxes at her
house to figure out what she had
and where everything was. It’s an
all-too-common occurrence, in
which a financial advisor’s help can
be crucial.”
• Listen to clients’ lifestyle needs and
concerns. Riney Smith says, “My
clients ask questions like ‘Can I
afford a new roof?’ ‘Can I afford to
take a vacation?’ ‘Should I refinance
my home?’ They also worry about
whether they can still participate in
their social circle, whether it’s country
clubs or expensive dinners.
We work
with them to map out what their
lifestyle needs and options are.”
• Develop a budget and financial
plan. Riney Smith puts together
a comprehensive financial plan,
including a detailed budget.
• Build a portfolio that aligns with the
client’s risk tolerance. “Focus the
investment conversation on risk,”
Riney Smith says.
“This approach
helps women get comfortable with
the practice’s investment process,
and builds trust.”
• Let clients lead the conversations. For
client meetings, Riney Smith makes a
point of starting with questions like,
“What’s on your mind these days?”
“What concerns do you currently
have?” and “What do you want to
cover today?” She says, “While we
[advisors] have our own agenda of
what we need to cover, I let [the
clients] lead.”
• Check in monthly. “I simply ask
‘How are you doing?’ or ‘Do you
understand your statement?’” notes
Riney Smith.
“Those questions then
lead to deeper conversations about
how [clients] are feeling about their
money.”
Listening to a bereaved client: a case study
“People deal with grief on different timetables,” observes Russ Thornton of
Wealthcare Capital Management. “Some work quickly, others slowly.
“I was introduced to a widow whose husband was a doctor, and he died
suddenly. She had a large liquid estate with money in more than 20 accounts
across an array of financial institutions.
She was aware of the need to
consolidate her accounts in order to better manage her money, but her
emotions often overwhelmed her. We had six to eight conversations, and
each time she became so distraught she couldn’t continue. This was a recent
event; in fact, she’s not yet ready to make any changes.
“Our firm thinks of it this way: It’s not an emergency situation.
She’s not at
risk of losing a substantial amount of money. The process to bring her on as
a client could take many more months or even as long as a year. So we take
it slowly, without a timetable and with deep respect for the enormity of this
event in her life.”
When she can, Riney Smith tries to
help out in ways clients don’t typically
expect.
For example, she hosted a
cocktail party and dinner for a client’s
widow group (without asking for any
business).
“I knew my client needed a jump-start
to reengage with friends,” Riney Smith
says. “And this was an easy way for me
to help. I had fun, too!”
Focusing on what you
can control
“ ven in the best of times, money
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is an emotional topic.
I know from
firsthand experience that, under
difficult circumstances, those
emotions can have a powerful, often
very negative, effect on decisions
we make.”
— uss Thornton, Vice President
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and Wealthcare Advisor,
Wealthcare Capital Management
Based in Wealthcare’s Atlanta office,
Russ Thornton applies what he learned
from his parents’ divorce while he was
in college.
“While my mother received a sufficient
financial settlement, she had no
experience managing money, let
alone the day-to-day family finances,”
Thornton explains. “I saw the decisions
she made and how things could have
been different had she worked with
someone who recognized her fears
and respected her vulnerabilities. It’s a
big part of why I’m a financial advisor
today.
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“Talking is the key with all clients — but
especially with women making
these kinds of transitions,” Thornton
continues. “We worked hard to
develop a practice that gives women a
safe environment to talk about what’s
important to them.”
Thornton emphasizes first helping
women identify their priorities,
concerns, and goals, and then walking
through the trade-offs of the decisions
they may need to make.
“It’s the key step,” Thornton says.
“Once they unpack those concerns,
they’re anxious to hear what you
recommend, and you become eager
to help.” Thornton also notes, “While
many women can identify with similar
concerns, their life stage and personal
situation can affect the factors to
consider in the planning process.”
Calming fears
Once a financial plan and investment
strategy are in place, Thornton uses
the following approach to keep
clients informed and to help mitigate
their worries:
• Stress test the financial plan.
Thornton finds that clients are
reassured by an analysis using
realistic market and economic cycles.
“It can obviously be tricky explaining
the Monte Carlo method,”4 he
notes, “but in the end, clients find
it reassuring.”
• Watch for underspending.
Underspending by his clients is a
common theme that he identifies in
these conversations. “We may agree
that a client can pull out $50,000
a year and live comfortably, along
with Social Security and a pension,”
he says. “But she’ll opt to pull out
$10,000 a year from her investment
account.
I’ll point out that she’ll
leave quite a lot to children and
grandchildren, but that she could live
a richer family life today.”
• Stay in touch. Like Riney Smith,
Thornton uses a high-touch,
high-frequency approach to
communication. He meets with most
clients four times per year, and also
reaches out monthly via a phone call
or email.
• Help clients think about the purpose
of their money.
At the end of the
day, Thornton believes that he
adds value for all clients — men,
women, and couples — by helping
them clarify their objectives for their
savings. “What is it for?” he asks. “If
I’m speaking to a widow, I’ll say, ‘Is
there a way you would like to honor
your husband through charitable
giving?’ It can be a wonderful
method for opening up the lines
of communication.
Moreover, this
conversation helps her recognize that
now it’s time to come to terms with
what is important,” Thornton says.
“It’s empowering for her, and a very
gratifying experience for me.”
Being a client advocate
“ any of my clients going through
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a divorce have a tremendous
amount of money at stake. Most
of my female clients are married
to executives, so private or public
stock is often involved, making the
divorce even more complicated.”
Colleen Chandler began her career as
a commercial lender before becoming
an investment banker at a Wall Street
firm. Soon afterward, she worked as
an advisor to a very wealthy family
she had encountered during her
banking years.
“I truly enjoyed that experience,”
Chandler says.
“It’s what inspired
me to make the transition to an
independent financial advisor.”
Chandler claims her experience over
the years in analyzing SEC disclosures
and private transactions, as well as her
expertise in different types of liquid
and illiquid securities, prepared her
to work with women going through a
complex divorce.
“It certainly helps that I’ve walked
through the firestorm of divorce
myself,” Chandler says. “I can relate to
every dimension of the experience.”
In her role as a client advocate in
divorce proceedings, she tries to
help all parties find the best financial
solution, even though her first
responsibility is to her client.
“To be an effective client advocate,
you have to pay attention to the
details,” she says. “Divorce requires
a lot of subject-matter expertise, plus
the ability to see the big picture.”
“You also need to understand the
people: your client, her spouse, the
tax and business professionals, and,
importantly, the legal team,” Chandler
explains.
“I think of it as a chessboard.
If you understand the players — where
they stand and where they want to
be — you can make good moves.”
— olleen Chandler, Managing
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Director, VennWell LLC
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onte Carlo method is a problem-solving technique used to value and analyze complex instruments, portfolios, and investments by simulating the
various sources of uncertainty affecting their value, and then determining their average value over the range of possible outcomes.
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. Evaluating different assets
in a divorce
Chandler describes a handful of
financial assets you need to evaluate in
a divorce:
• Retirement plans. Says Chandler,
“Not all retirement plans are easily
divided; nonqualified executive plans
may need to be offset against other
assets. Further, the tax impact of
access to retirement funds can be an
important consideration, especially
for those under age 59½.”
• Stock options or restricted stock.
Chandler notes that the greatest
difficulty with these assets often
comes after the divorce, when the
already divided options are exercised
or the shares are unrestricted. If an
advisor can offer operational and
tax ideas ahead of time, it may help
prevent misunderstandings later.
• Private equity.
It is important to
understand the potential cash flows
involved in these investments. “Does
the divorcee have money for future
capital calls?” Chandler asks. “While
such deals could be very lucrative in
the future, they are risky, as payouts
are uncertain.
Can the client afford
the risk?
“Leveraging my expertise helps clients
come up with the best way to reach
a satisfactory solution,” Chandler
says. “When financial alternatives are
positioned in a reasonable and wellthought-out approach, all sides can
best reach a workable settlement. As
advisors, it is imperative that we are
thoughtful and thorough in what we
put together.”
A crash course in Finance 101
Chandler sums up her experience in
this way: “At the end of the day, we’re
helping women make it through a crash
course in personal finance, investment,
tax, and estate planning — all while
navigating through a highly emotional
time in their lives.
Educating our clients
is critical, as well as coaching them on
how to be effective communicators.
“We do a lot of role-playing in our
office,” she reports. “It’s crucial to
prepare our clients for important
conversations with a spouse or with
their attorneys.
“It’s often their first experience
having such a conversation,” Chandler
notes. “And they are often pleasantly
surprised that they not only can do it,
but do it successfully.”
Actions to consider
We hope these real-life examples
can help you better prepare for the
challenges of a client becoming
widowed or divorcing a spouse.
The following principles summarize
some best practices of the advisors
we interviewed:
• Listen to, educate, and coach your
clients so they can emerge stronger
and more independent.
As all three
profiled advisors demonstrated,
applying “softer skills” to your
relationships with women in
transition can make a tremendous
difference in their lives. Consider
how Debbie Riney Smith and Russ
Thornton listened to, educated,
and empathized with their clients,
and, in turn, empowered them to
rebuild their lives and make informed
financial decisions.
The divorce process:
roles an advisor can play
According to Colleen Chandler,
managing director of VennWell LLC,
advisors can offer valuable expertise
when working with clients going
through a divorce, but it is important
to be clear on the role of the advisor.
You may want to consider these three
potential roles:
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professional. Typically hired by
an attorney, advisors in this role
may be charged with developing
a deep understanding of the
couple’s lifestyle and spending
prior to the divorce, and they may
even prepare to testify on behalf of
one of the parties to the divorce.
Alternatively, an advisor can also
be relied on to be an expert in
examining a variety of financial
records, which may include
brokerage and banking statements,
and documents to evaluate
financial assets.
• ediator.
In this situation, the
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advisor is hired by the couple
to assist them in coming to an
agreement on the division of
assets and in structuring payments
that occur between the parties
over time. Both sides have to be
informed and capable of standing
up for their own position, because
the mediator is not an advocate
for either party to the divorce.
As Chandler says, “It’s important
for women to have full disclosure
and a clear understanding of all
assets, earnings information, and
spending requirements in order to
negotiate a fair settlement in these
situations.”
• lient advocate. Chandler
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typically plays this role, in which
she helps her client prepare for
the divorce process by gathering
all the essential information and
developing a financial strategy.
“In
this role,” Chandler says, “advisors
need to also review all financial
proposals presented by the other
side in order to find common
ground, and counsel their client
with regard to implications and
trade-offs in both the near and
long term.”
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. • Ask yourself: Are you as willing and
able as Colleen Chandler to coach
your clients in speaking to their
husbands for the first time about
money? Imagine the ways you can
empower your clients. Start the
process one step at a time, with one
client at a time.
• To help build trust, explain how the
level of risk in certain investments
can affect the achievement of overall
financial goals. Uncertain economic
times remind all advisors of the
importance of explaining reasons
for your investment choices and how
the amount of risk inherent in these
decisions can affect your clients’
future. As Debbie Riney Smith and
Russ Thornton both emphasize:
– Proactively explain why you have
chosen specific investments, and
further explain why you still like
them, even when markets are
volatile
– Show your clients how big of a
drop their portfolio can withstand,
so they understand how
they’re prepared
– Continually demonstrate for
clients how their investments are
progressing against their longterm plans
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• In a divorce proceeding, use
your expertise to think and act
strategically.
Effectively serving
clients going through a divorce
requires an understanding of the
separation and divorce process. For
high-net-worth clients, you also need
to understand an array of complex
financial instruments, including how
they can be monetized for your
client. While not all financial advisors
can easily become an expert in all
types of complex securities, you
can play to your strengths.
If you’re
an expert with retirement plans,
you may want to consider focusing
on helping divorcing couples with
large plans. If you work extensively
with stock options, you may want
to consider serving corporate
executives and their spouses. Assess
your knowledge base, and then act
accordingly.
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